tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post4766922940377491667..comments2023-11-03T04:39:50.760-05:00Comments on Galley Slaves: '90s Music PotpouriJonathan V. Lasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17426165197358366129noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-39732535349102648202008-12-11T17:36:00.000-05:002008-12-11T17:36:00.000-05:00One more thing, I've been posting lots of solid mu...One more thing, I've been posting lots of solid music over on <A HREF="wershovenistpig.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">the Pig</A> to break up the dry posts relating to the markets.WershovenistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303494819641085111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-14259308867093058012008-12-11T17:19:00.000-05:002008-12-11T17:19:00.000-05:00JVL, I did indeed crap on the Counting Crows. Of c...JVL, I did indeed crap on the Counting Crows. <BR/><BR/>Of course, the Crows' first record sat alongside Dave Matthews' Under the Table and Dreaming in nearly all my friends' dorm rooms at Haverford. And I must admit that I sang Counting Crows' album-track Sullivan Street <I>a cappella</I> as a sophomore. At least my <I>a cappella</I> group avoided Two Princes by the Spin Doctors, unlike the other male group on campus.<BR/><BR/>That said, by the time I heard Mr. Jones for the thousandth time by 1996-or-so, it was time to feel some embarassment.<BR/><BR/>As of the end of 2008, if you're listening to Counting Crows as a reminder of your youth, that's fine. Listening to Primus, some shoegaze like Lush, or the Singles soundtrack (namely the Paul Westerberg tracks and State of Love and Trust by Pearl Jam) might be a better use of your time. <BR/><BR/>But if you are still finding Duritz' songsmithing vital, then I think you might need a musical intervention.WershovenistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303494819641085111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-61218219244841110812008-12-09T16:36:00.000-05:002008-12-09T16:36:00.000-05:00I'll defend the Counting Crows: "August and Everyt...I'll defend the Counting Crows: "August and Everything After" is one of the most listenable-to albums of the 90s. It's not groundbreaking in any real way, but it is enjoyable in that muzak of the 90s sort of way. There isn't a bad track on the album, and there are quite a few very good tracks. There aren't too many other big acts from that came to the fore in the same time period that can say the same thing (off the top of my head, Pearl Jam is the only other one that had an album that was very good/great all the way through...and they had two of them).<BR/><BR/>I haven't been as impressed by anything that they've done in subsequent years. But that first album was damn good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-23810693775215157132008-12-09T15:45:00.000-05:002008-12-09T15:45:00.000-05:00Jonathan,I'm going to have to step up and say that...Jonathan,<BR/><BR/>I'm going to have to step up and say that the Counting Crows‘ first two albums are entirely defensible. I was too young to catch them the first time around (before they became what they are now…), but some of those early songs seems to be wedged just beside the heart of the essence of mid-90s coffee-rock culture, as best I can reckon it from the stories of friends who are a few years older than me. (And while most defenses of the Counting Crows will have to be grounded on this “captured a cultural moment” thing, but I've heard a compelling non-ironic case for Adam Duritz's early lyrics.)<BR/><BR/>Yours,<BR/><BR/>-Williamwilliam randolph braffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890306082299165436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-22301994256628870402008-12-09T15:33:00.000-05:002008-12-09T15:33:00.000-05:00According to most music historians counting crows ...According to most music historians counting crows is still inexplicable and indefensible, and shouldn't be mentioned except as part of an insult (as in 'you liked Counting Crows'). Surely you meant black crows, who were indeed defensible on circumstantial grounds. <BR/>But I (music expert) take umbrage with this made-up mtv category of 'grunge.' Pearl jam wasn't really grunge so much as the beginning of the '80s music' backlash that dominated the 90s and kept talented bands like primus on the sidelines through the power of the infinite supply of friendly jammers and rap-roc-beat-offs labels could easily locate and recycle as new.<BR/>Technically, there is not any distinctive grunge sound beyond ripping off mudhoney and the melvins (music source, 2006).<BR/>I hear Les still lurks. And he's as good and defiantly off-kilter as ever (Ebert, 2007).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-76551863842405905332008-12-09T13:57:00.000-05:002008-12-09T13:57:00.000-05:00Les Claypool has done some solo stuff. He recorde...Les Claypool has done some solo stuff. He recorded an album with Trey Anastasio (Phish) and Stewart Copeland (The Police) undder the name Oysterhead. <BR/><BR/>HDNET runs concerts on the weekends. We caught "The Jammies" concert one weekend and saw Claypool (wearing a pig mask) doing one of his solo songs.<BR/><BR/>I have a subscription to Rhapsody. They have a lot of Claypool solo stuff. <BR/><BR/>I confess to knowing all of this because after seeing the concert on HDNET, I went through my own "whatever happened to" search.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-80597893472929785202008-12-09T13:08:00.000-05:002008-12-09T13:08:00.000-05:00I cannot in good conscience speak to the defense o...I cannot in good conscience speak to the defense of the crows that count, JVL. The Pig is right to recoil at the mention. But I confess, late at night, when the apartment is silent, and no one is available to catalog my indiscretion, I sneak to the computer, disconnect my iPod, and play <I>Mr. Jones</I>, while eating a pint of Phish Food.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7871003.post-27995354856426432812008-12-09T12:42:00.000-05:002008-12-09T12:42:00.000-05:00Johnathan,go to Pandora.com and enter Primus to ha...Johnathan,<BR/><BR/>go to Pandora.com and enter Primus to have them build a radio station around the music...Les was nothing if not prolific, although I haven't heard anything about them recently. <BR/><BR/>I know you're a cool guy, and posts like this continue to justify my judgement. But, damn...Apple? WTF?<BR/><BR/> - MRN aka "The Husband"<BR/><BR/>P.S. Merry Chirstmas!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com